Waterhall - Fairwater

Just North of Fairwater railway station are the remains of a railway line that ran up to Llantrisant and beyond I believe and if it brought back into use, could be useful for this development. OK so it would involve the demolition of some 70s houses, but then again you can't make an omelette!

The corridor leaves the current line just north of Waungron Rd Station not Fairwater and it's always been a part of the Metro proposals. The corridor is shown on the Plasdwr plans.

It doesn't actually involve the demolition of any housing as the alignment can be joined from the City Line any where from just north of Kenilworth Court to Fairwater Road and run along the preserved track bed. To be fair to our city planners for once that corridor has been carefully preserved for the best part of four decades as a possible future transport link.

I believe you are incorrect. If the spur was North of Waungron Road it would have to go right through the middle of the the whole of Fairwater.

If you check the linked image some houses would have to be demolished for a rail spur to connect to the existing rail bed North of Fairwater Station.

http://postimg.org/image/63iujas7z/

My concern that there is no culture of commuter train use in this part of the world, even if the station in near by.

My concern that there is no culture of commuter train use in this part of the world, even if the station in near by.

Quite a lot of commuters use Radyr, on the same line.

I believe you are incorrect. If the spur was North of Waungron Road it would have to go right through the middle of the the whole of Fairwater.

If you check the linked image some houses would have to be demolished for a rail spur to connect to the existing rail bed North of Fairwater Station.

http://postimg.org/image/63iujas7z/

It's not a huge argument but if you look but if you look at the mapping of the original junction line at the link below you'll see that it ran in parallel with the current city line to a junction just north of Waungron Park. There are many points of access to the old alignment that don't involve going "right through the middle of the the whole of Fairwater"

http://www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php

I believe you are incorrect. If the spur was North of Waungron Road it would have to go right through the middle of the the whole of Fairwater.

If you check the linked image some houses would have to be demolished for a rail spur to connect to the existing rail bed North of Fairwater Station.

http://postimg.org/image/63iujas7z/

It's not a huge argument but if you look but if you look at the mapping of the original junction line at the link below you'll see that it ran in parallel with the current city line to a junction just north of Waungron Park. There are many points of access to the old alignment that don't involve going "right through the middle of the the whole of Fairwater"

http://www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php

I can't see that, Jonbvn is right.

As I said it's not a huge argument. The situation is pretty clear if you walk the alignment which is an easy thing to to do.

Ash, I'm going to join in and say "you're wrong" on this. On that map and on Googlemaps it is clear that the line comes in north of Fairwater not Waun-gron Park station. And there are certainly houses built on the alignment - only a few. But it would add a few million to any proposal to reinstate the line.

I don't think anyone said this was a "huge argument". Just trying to get to the truth of the matter - which is what Jonbvn said earlier.

As I said it's not a huge argument. The situation is pretty clear if you walk the alignment which is an easy thing to to do.

My back yard as a kid, so I am pretty clear.

Anyway, perhaps we are splitting hairs?

I suppose the question is do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, in this case the potential benefits of those in Llantrisant and beyond who could have a rail link to Cardiff against the owners of the demolished properties. A very difficult question to answer.

15 homes would be demolished, according to the LDP. On page 18, Appendix D: the NW Corridor Study Report

https://www.cardiff.gov.uk/ENG/resident ... Report.pdf

It says:

"4.3 Route Appraisal Findings 4.3.1 Option 1a
Option 1 connects to the City Line at the site of the former connection at Kirton Close and follows the old trackbed towards Llantrisant. The track terminates at a new station south of the M4 near the existing underpass on Heol St Y Nyll.
Key considerations include the following:
1. Connection into City Line (Chainage 0 to 1200)
A mainline crossover with Network Rail infrastructure will be required to allow access to both the Up and Down City lines.
In the case of heavy rail, the new track will directly impact upon approximately 15 existing dwellings and be in close proximity to other nearby properties regardless of whether single or double track is installed.
Line speed will be limited to approximately 20mph from Chainage 0 to Chainage 400 due to constrained track geometry.
At least three existing footpaths indicated on the OS survey will have to be re- routed or replaced with footbridges."