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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... s-10542938

Quelle horreur! Affordable housing scheme as part of developing wasteland apparently will create anti-social behaviour, plus much more. Could the residents of Atlantic Wharf be any more Hyacinth Bucket if they tried?

As somebody who grew up in a council house this kind of crap makes me really annoyed. I bet these arseholes whining about council houses lowering the tone of the neighbourhood didn't think that their comments are on the public record. Tossers.

They just don't want their view of a rat infested wasteland spoiled!

The funniest bit is the final quote. It's pretty clear that the vast majority of existing residents have no problems with the scheme and that the objectors are a bunch of unrepresentative nimbys - so we get this;

"The decisions of previous planning applications I feel has led many residents to feel disenfranchised from the local democratic process and a reason why they have not formally objected to this development. Please do not take their silence as a sign of approval.”

This story reminded me of an article in the Evening Standard yesterday about objections to plans for "affordable" housing in Westminster, near Buckingham Palace.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/k ... 29336.html

If there is a proper overlooking issue that could be grounds for refusal. But some appears to be nothing more than snobbishness:

"Mr Goring is also worried about lights from the flats shining into the hotel garden, and even the aesthetics of the curtains or blinds used in the flats. “Things hanging in or from windows can be deeply offensive in a five-star luxury environment,” he explained."

"Neil Maclachlan, who lives nearby, said he understood the need for affordable housing in the area but wanted a ban on the flats housing “lower standard affordable or social housing occupants”. The Victoria Square Residents’ Association accused the Grosvenor Estate of “foisting” inappropriate tenants on the residents."

Now, as someone who earns a good wage but nowhere near enough to live somewhere so centrally, I do sometimes get a little unhappy about provision of social housing in such good areas. But thats to do with problem of the affordability of housing in London more generally and the fact that people like me feel pushed further and further out: there is an issue of whether it is then fair for a lucky subset of low income people to be able to live centrally in subsidised property.

These objections though aren't about housing market affordability. They are just pure snobbishness. And that I can't abide. (In fact I like living in mixed neighbourhoods - in parts of London, social tenants are the only group who stay put and form the core of the 'neighbourhood' as private tenants move all the time, and private owners often use facilities in fancier areas).

Given

I think they should be more worried about the poor urban realm around there and the fact that abandoned boats have now sunk!

https://flic.kr/p/BmuAiU

On th elplus side they have recently re painted the water quarter which has improved it considerably!

As somebody who grew up in a council house this kind of crap makes me really annoyed. I bet these arseholes whining about council houses lowering the tone of the neighbourhood didn't think that their comments are on the public record. Tossers.

Lyndon you have such a turn of phrase! (you didn't write Hilary Benn's speech by any chance?)
They are not the only Tossers or Arseholes don't suppose you had a mirror in your council house when you grew up?

This forum has turned into a lefty self-righteous load of clap trap from the usual suspects.
The funny thing is you criticise others for expressing views you don't agree with and don't realise you are just as biggoted in your own criticism/abuse

I don't follow the ins and outs of whats said by everyone here (although I do recall I disagree with most of what Lyndon says). But I would point out its not bigotted to call out someone else's bigotry. Bigotry is not entirely in the eye of the beholder.

Those who oppose affordable and social housing by complaining about the riff raff are entitled to make their complaints. But people are entitled to think that it is snobbish and selfish. Others, in turn, are entitled to think that the original views are understandable, and the second set of views are self-righteous.

High end apartments - do us a favour. Even if it was salubrious place that's no excuse.

Jantra wrote:High end apartments - do us a favour. Even if it was salubrious place that's no excuse.

I think you'll find Salubrious Place is in Swansea.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/swanseas-salubrious-place-scheme-receivership-5390710